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Lord K Philipson
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Posted: Nov 23, 2007 [22:45] |
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Nice, short, to-the-point review. And nope, I still don't hear any fucken industrial influences in what we do. I guess that's just another proof people have no idea as for where to put us genre-wise, which makes me very fucken happy.
Thanx so much for the link.
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Posted: Nov 24, 2007 [11:31] |
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Why does people think that electronic elements equals "industrial"?
By that standard, The Pet Shop Boys or Depeche Mode would be considered "industrial". |
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Posted: Nov 24, 2007 [11:40] |
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Yeah, you're right there. I guess it's just an convenient label to use. When you are trying to describe something that is unique, it's easier to just connect it to a genre that already exists.
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Posted: Nov 24, 2007 [18:37] |
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 I have a sander that is said to be industrial so were the fuck dose that put that?? 
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Posted: Nov 24, 2007 [18:58] |
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Let's put it this way, I'd rather listen to your sander than The Pet Shop Boys. 
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Posted: Nov 24, 2007 [19:17] |
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Yeah the sander makes a better tune that the poof shop boys. 
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Lord K Philipson
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Posted: Nov 24, 2007 [21:20] |
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On topic now, please.
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Statik Majik
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Posted: Nov 26, 2007 [11:42] |
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| Quote: | | Evanescencen ja Lacuna Coilin |
Vittu nakki sauna!
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Posted: Nov 26, 2007 [19:24] |
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Maybe you could translate it for us
English speakers, Statik?
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Posted: Nov 27, 2007 [08:00] |
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| srx wrote: |
| Quote: | | Evanescencen ja Lacuna Coilin |
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Yes, I know, only fans or people thoroughly familiar with TPH should review TPH albums. 
I know that sometimes it's hard to understand that there are actually shitloads of people who've never heard anything from (or even remotly similar to) TPH and reviewers usually want to compare stuff they're reviewing so that the actual readers who've never heard the album either would have somekind of grasping point, ya know. Hell, only mainstream bands that people would recognize happen to be Evanescence, Lacuna Coil, Nightwish or Within Temptation so of course reviewers tend to compare Jo's voice to 'em to make their point clear. Hell, at least the reviewer didn't draw Fear Factory card from his sleeve.
And this might be news to people outside Finland (or people who didn't notice the logo on the top right area of the Chambers-site): even though Chambersmagazine does review metal albums, they're still more hardcore/metalcore/punk-zine than metalzine like us. So that they even decided/wanted to review IHMN album was cool thing to do in my book, even though the reviewer didn't get a major hard on from the album.
| Headless wrote: | Maybe you could translate it for us
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Sure, I could. But I ain't sure will I. Maybe. |
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Statik Majik
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Posted: Nov 27, 2007 [08:25] |
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Fuck it, here I go. I must apologize for the not-so-smoothly-translated version. I'm not that good in english that I'd be able to translate all neat word-plays, metaphors or slightly funny nyances correctly. But at least you all should get somekind of image what the reviewer was trying to say, even though he seems to be as much high on life as I am when writing reviews. And yes, he obviously haven't heard much of TPH (and so what?) and didn't become a major fan of the album/band but fuck it. We all know that TPH ain't for everyone and at least it's possible to see what parts the reviewer did/didn't like about the album.
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The Project Hate
"In Hora Mortis Nostræ" CD
(StormVox Records, released 15.9.07)
The Project Hate MCMXCIX, now almost ten years of age, hails from the studio with their 6th album. "In Hora Mortis Nostræ" doesn't bring much new winds into the noisemaking of Hate Project, but who would need 'em anyway.
The crew who has gathered experience in groups like Grave, Entombed and Death Breath doesn't feel ashamed of their roots and lets their love towards death metal to be heard clearly. Even though technical death metal is the musical core of Project Hate, the strongly pulsing industrial soundscale follows the band like a shark follows a ship. Every now and then a strong gothic feeling takes space and especially sections sung by Jonna Enckell take the listener amidst gothmetal-spheres similar to bands like Evanescence and Lacuna Coil. Everyone can decide whether that's a good or bad thing. Yes, Project knows how to occasionally slow down, but the two-euro-synth-trickery that's present doesn't differ much from... well, two-euro-synth-trickery.
The whole "In Hora Mortis Nostræ" is actually based on repeating the same trick over and over again: Jörgen Sandström's gruntin' deathmetal battery and gothic sentimentality provided by Jonna Enckell. Only the few synth-pop-patterns created in the spirit of 80´s manage to raise up the mood a bit. Only for a bit.
The most interesting thing about the new album by Project Hate is that it's released by Storm Vox Records, which is owned by well-known Swedish actor Peter Stormare. Who's know outside Sweden for example from his role of Abruzzi on the "Prison Break" tv-series. There you go.
Teemu Lahtinen 23.11.07
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Posted: Nov 27, 2007 [10:24] |
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That's actually quite a good review ;p but the raging fanboy in me got a little bit vexed at the last paragraph. The most interesting thing is the fact the album dominates! However, I guess that was just outro smalltalk or something, either way from the defensive slap in my face you gave me earlier Statik, I'm willing to let that little bit slide since this is new territory for them, and they're not as hardcore as me :P
Translation seemed fined by the way, no weird finglish going on, that's for sure.
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Posted: Nov 27, 2007 [18:51] |
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That's not a bad review at all, but I agree with srx about the last bit Storm Vox Records, fuck!, some one has to release this master peace to the world! I also noticed the word (dare I say it) Industrial again!.
Thanks to you Statik for the translation, fucking great, nothing wrong with your English its better than my English and I am English! 
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Posted: Nov 27, 2007 [19:28] |
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Cool that ya appreciate the translation, no problemo. And I do agree with you both, the guy responsible for the review wasn't probably the best person to review it and had few... well, mistakes/misinterpretation in the review but it's still better than nothing. Far better than nothing I might add. After sending nearly 20 promocopies of IHMN for various finnish media I'm happy to see that at least one of 'em had the courage to review it this fast ("only" few weeks after receiving the cd). And that explains also the, ehm... slightly defensive stand I took in my earlier post. So let's see how and if other mags/webzines react to it. It's not like Finland is running too many medias that are willing to cover slightly less known bands in the first place (unless they're signed to a label that has the cash to promote 'em) but I try my best to do something to get TPH even some visibility. And since Prison Break is generally more liked here in Finland than TPH I'm just glad that the reviewer found something that got his attention in the first place. After all, when compared to how we at Global Domination treat certain bands/albums, this one was from the friendliest side of the field. You know the saying about assholes and opinions, right..?
I must be in the minority of TPH fans that don't get defensive when seeing people use the "industrial" word. Hell, I can even see behind the Fear Factory comparisons though I don't agree with 'em at all. And what do you know: I can even live with the few comparison to other more rockish female-fronted bands (except Nightfish) but personally I get a bit puzzled when I see the "goth" card taken out. Seriously, what the fuck..? I mean personally I don't find a slightiest "goth" in TPH and always wonder what drugs the reviewer was on while listening to TPH album, hahah. Well to each his own. At least the reviewer succeeded in creating conversation. That must count for something... |
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Posted: Nov 27, 2007 [19:35] |
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| Oh, and the new Close-Up arrived today with a small TPH article. THP are industrial Death Metal according to that one to. |
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Posted: Nov 27, 2007 [20:16] |
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Let me just explain one thing. The term "industrial" is widely used on all bands with electronically programed sounds in their music. Therefor it's not wrong to call TPH an industrial death metal band if one does not know a better definition. And it's hard to pinpoint what exact genre TPH fits in.
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Posted: Nov 27, 2007 [21:00] |
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Thanks for the translation Statik, it's quite an interesting read. Like you say, the guy obviously isn't a big fan, and some of the descriptions about the style of music leaves a lot to be desired, then again I guess it's quite a hard job if you haven't quite heard anything quite like it before. As they say, any publicity is good publicity, so it's good to see that TPH are being covered in the press in one form or another.
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Posted: Nov 28, 2007 [09:00] |
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"Industrial death metal". Hell no.
Why is it so important to smack a label on TPH?
I've got a label for it: "Awesome music, check it out and see for yourself" |
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Posted: Nov 28, 2007 [15:21] |
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| Lowe wrote: | "Industrial death metal". Hell no.
Why is it so important to smack a label on TPH?
I've got a label for it: "Awesome music, check it out and see for yourself" |
works for me 
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